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The first shell is the 12 gauge, 1-1/8 ounce, “F2 Legend” at 1230 fps. The medal-winning F2 Legend uses B&P’s F2 powder invented by Gianni Manfredi, has a B&P wad and is fitted with the patented Gordon hull. This is the 12 gauge load that will likely change the way you think shotshells are supposed to perform. The use of F2 powder - 5 Olympic gold medals - in combination with selected graphite-coated bronze-coloured shot with 5% antimony and the photodegradable wad, enable high initial velocities to be achieved. This cartridge is an optimal solution for. No extensive patterning but did run them over the chronograph. Measured as advertised. Hulls were reloaded using clays and the B&P wad from balistic products, a chedite primer and clays powder. I would guess E3 would work as well. Again all 7 8 loads only. Hulls held up for a handfull of reloads before the crimp fingers started splitting.
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Competition One 12ga 2 3/4 inch 7/8oz 7.5-8-9 shot 1160 FPS/ 5804 PSI ( 2 1/2 DRAM) $87.95
Competition One 12ga 2 3/4 inch 1oz 7.5-8-9 shot 1160 FPS/ 6530 PSI ( 2 3/4 DRAM) $89.95
Competition One 12ga 2 3/4 inch 1 1/8oz 7.5-8-9 shot 1160 FPS/ 8416 PSI ( 2 3/4 DRAM) $93.95
Competition One was awarded
2011 - We invite you try these shells and find out why.
Gray's Sporting Journal voted B&P Competition One as THE BEST!Quote from Gray's Sporting Journal:
'These are absolutely top-quality shotshells, and when you place your shot correctly, they’re all deadly, whether on clay or with feathers.'
outstanding Review by big len
soft recoil and hard hitting. The 7/8's are great for s/s and youth training even skeet and sporting clays. The 1 oz loads are equally effective and soft recoil even for handicap trap. I find more open chokes work best, maybe due to less shot deformation. I gave a handful to other shooters who were using the more typical 3dram 1 1/8 loads. No change in the way targets smoked but a dramatic difference in recoil. Got some converts on the first try. Any plans for 3/4 oz loads? cheers Len (Posted on 8/11/11)
Softest shooting 12 ga I have ever pulled the trigger on Review by slewcity
I first chose these for their low recoil in my SXS. In doing some extensive ballistic research I found out their is insignificant performance in time to target and energy on target with the 1 oz 1160 fps out to 50 yds compared to a 1300 fps load with 7.5 shot size. I now have chosen this shell for all competitions SC and Skeet in my O/U and I am now shooting a trap league with these as well, and I am very impressed with the performance even at 27 yd trap handicap. (Posted on 5/31/11)
absolutely fantastic Review by darrel
I have a franchi i-12 sporting, a little picky on what you feed it. it loves this things. patterns very nicely, they pattern a little better than my hands loads. no fte or ftf great ammo at a fair price. to me they perform just as good as aa. (Posted on 3/2/11)
Shot a registered skeet tournament with these and they're awesome! Review by Mike D
There's something about these shells that just makes them fun to shoot. There is a noticeable difference in felt recoil as compared to my favorite 1oz handloads @ 1,150fps. These 1oz loads, at an advertised velocity of 1,160 fps, feel more like a 20ga., than they do a 12! (Posted on 8/27/10)
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Comp One 24 gram @ 1160 FPS
Posted by Ed Kaltreider, Old Friends Hunting & Shooting Company, Livingston, Montana on 6th Aug 2013
Got these to test for a low recoiling shell in a 7 1/2. Very light recoil and a great pattern, broke targets very well for the first shot at wobble trap.
1st time using
Posted by Brian Haycox on 25th Jun 2013
Ran the 7/8 7.5 comp 1 rounds thru my new Mossberg 500 pistol grip! Awesome! Low recoil consist tight patterns smooth load & cycling. Ran 150 rounds with no pain or fatigue. Will use again & again! Highly recommend!!
Great all-around load
Posted by Gary on 18th Mar 2013
Exceptional value and quality in an all-around 12 ga. load for clays and upland birds. Low recoil and deadly effectiveness.
THE BEST LOW RECOIL SPORTING AND GAME LOADS
Posted by CHARLES M. ROSE on 26th Feb 2013
These 7/8's oz. loads are the creme de la creme for low recoil shells. They pattern beautifully, have no recoil to speak of and are very competitively priced. What more can one ask for ?
Posted by big red on 20th Feb 2013
proves the point that less is more. Less recoil, more shot on target. try less shot and slower speed to smoke the clays
Competion One 7/8 oz.
Posted by Scott on 19th Feb 2013
Softest shooting, best patterning shells around.
If you see a new shooter on the sporting clays course, do em a favor and give them a handful of your 7/8's. It'll make a convert out of them.
try 'em You'll buy'em
Posted by len on 21st Dec 2012
Hard hitting, virtually recoiless. I favor 7/8 oz # 8's. Great for clays and skeet. I'm not a trap guy but have used them with great results @ 16 and 17 yd trap. I also use the sub sonic loads in older side by sides, some with proofed damascus barrels, with great results.
any chance of 3/4 oz 12 gauge light loads?
A real Winner
Posted by Bill on 13th Dec 2012
When you are tired of being beat up by the shells thar cram as much powder and shot as they can in to their product. It is time to tray a more refined shell that truly delivers a great pattern with a lot less recoil.
You will thank B&P when your scores improve because they have great performance and do not beat you up!
Back to the old standby
Posted by Carl on 27th Nov 2012
I had been shooting the Comp 1- 1 1/8 oz., 7 1/2 shot... tried the 1 oz. #8 shot and scores dropped off drastically. Due to the cold, I may not get a chance for a while to try the heavier load again, but sure hope that was my problem... I'm thinking it was.
Awesome light target load
Posted by Bob Butler on 4th Nov 2012
I am in year two of running a Scholastic Clay Target Team teaching the basics of the clay target games. The search for a factory 78 oz load led me to B&P. The only other factory load I have found is loaded to 1100 fps and is not available locally in my area.
My two requirements were that the load cycle the auto loaders we use with the new youth shooters to reduce recoil, and that it is available for their parents to purchase.
These B&P Competition One shells cycle both a Remington 1100 and the Beretta 391 for doubles easily.
These young athletes smash clays with 78 oz loads and can practice for longer shooting the light loads. They break both skeet and 16 yd trap targets with ease using the 78ths payload.
A four box practice is not uncommon on a Sunday. The lower recoil makes a big difference.
Great for teaching new shooters and for extending the day for more experienced ones.
The best part was the painless part of the delivery. Ordered online and the delivery truck dropped them off in a few short days. Shipping included in the price. No BS.
Great Job B&P for providing a solution for the athletes parents that don't reload. I see a much better score toward the end of the day vs. a 1 oz. load on long shooting sessions.
Getting a young shooter or lady started is helped tremendously by reducing recoil. These shells perform that job to a T.
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Are B&P Shotshells the Best?
By Randy WakemanIllustration courtesy of Baschieri & Pellagri.
That’s a good question. Clearly, one of the most importantcomponents in firearm performance is the quality of the ammunition we use.Whether rimfire, centerfire, or shotshell the promotional type loads are almostinvariably inaccurate and inconsistent compared to medium-priced offerings.With shotgun shells, this is likely more true than in any other type ofammunition, for very good reason. Very few shotgunners take the time to patternthe shells they use at the ranges they intend to shoot with the choke theyintend to use. If they did, sales of the promo loads would plummet.
I won’t begin to try to tell you that patterning shotguns isfun; it isn’t. You need to shoot at least five rounds of each shell at yourpatterning board to get a representative pellet sampling. One shot out of ashotgun is a lot like a “one shot group” with a rifle, it really gives you norepeatable information. Some folks rightfully suggest than ten pattern boardsper shell is better. It is, no question about it. Nevertheless, I’ve found thata collection of five consecutive patterns gives a useful representation of thenumber of pellets that you can place on a target. I also use 28 in. x 32 in.posterboard for patterning. Though one of the many vague standards is a 30 inchcircle at 40 yards, most people can readily observe that the lethal part ofyour pattern, the part that places 3-4 pellets with certitude on the kill zoneof your target, is no where near that large. Warren Johnson’s “Choke Chooser”is a handy slide-rule type guide for clays use based on the orientation of thetarget, shotsize, payload, distance, and pattern percentage. Mr. Johnson baseshis work on the “99% chance of a two-pellet hit” on clays. It was John Brindle who determined years agothat it is not possible to have an effective spread with a 12 gauge, 1-1/8ounce shotshell larger than 25 inches across at any range.
Whether we want to call it effective spread, ethicalwingshooting or just cracking clays with authority, one thing is clear: thepellets that do not arrive on our target are worthless. The results can beastounding; in one testing set, all done with a Trulock 12 gauge ImprovedModified Precision Hunter Choke, promo loads yielded splotchy 48% patterns,where high-antimony handloads put an 87% average pattern on the board. A dove,for example, has a kill zone a bit smaller than a golf ball.
The 48% pattern percentage load (457 pellets to start with) against a three square inch circle at40 yards equates to a 28% “no hit” percentage. Now, let consider that 86%pattern: the “no hit” percentage is now 2%, or a 98% chance to hit that threeinch kill zone. Phrasing it differently, you are about 14 times as likely tomiss or cripple that dove at 40 yards with this promo load as you are with aquality shell. Small wonder that dove hunters go through so many shells? If ourlead is off a bit, it gets even worse: if our pattern placement is off-centerby around six inches, it is miss or cripple about 1/3 of the time with ourpromo load.
There are many reasons that promo loads are so horribly bad.They are not performance-based purchases, they are just the cheapest thingavailable that goes bang. To get cheap, we have to cut costs. The powders used inthem up are the cheapest bulk powders in the marketplace at the time. They arelikely dirty as well, but worse, they are cheap and inconsistent. Consistencycosts money.
The wads are the cheapest that can be obtained.Usuallyrecycled plastic, or whatever fulfills the notion of “adequacy.” On it goes tothe shot. To get quality shot, not only must it be concentric, but it must havehigh antimony content. The problem is, antimony costs more money than lead, sowe generally have to use the softest stuff around to make our promo shell.Naturally, this consumer-driven striving for cheapness also touches the hulland the the brass. Here we have yet another issue; that “brass” is plated oroxidized steel. It is hard enough to quickly scour, scratch, and wear away theejection port areas of alloy receiver autoloaders. Autoloaders get the leastlove of all out of the deal, with dirty powders that can plague gas systems andpeened receivers. We may also have plastic fouling in the forcing cone and chokeareas from our economy wad.
We can’t really blame the ammo manufacturers for all this;we have demanded cheap and the birdie/ducky loads are just what we asked for.Inconsistent velocities are to be expected. Inconsistent, erratic ammo is to beexpected when wads, powder, shot, hulls are all sourced from random places withthe primary directive of low per-unit cost.
By now, you are probably wondering when I’m going to get toB&P ammo. Well, I’m almost there, but I just had to give a bit ofbackground on why birds might be missed, where that plastic fouling came fromand why your once-reliable autoloader might be jamming or is getting banged up.
Baschieri & Pellagri (B&P) is not yet a householdname in the United States. Internationally, they are, at least among shooters.B&P has been around since 1891. They are located in Bologna, Italy andtheir international shooting success includes six gold medals, two silvermedals, and one bronze medal at the Olympics; 7 World Cups, 64 World Championships,65 European Championships and 239 Italian Championships. They are Italy’s onlyprivate manufacturer of gunpowder.
This begins to tell the tale of why total quality control ispossible for B&P. The have invented and manufacture their own powders, theymake their own hulls and they make their own wads all in-house. In fact, whenyou hear of Baschieri & Pellagri wads being used by other shotshell manufacturers,such as Fiocchi, it is as a sales tool, because B&P wads are so highlyregarded. It is this unique combination of synergy between wad, hull andpropellant that sets B&P apart. No other shotshell company that I know ofis both a powder manufacturer and a molded plastics expert. (Remington used to be, when they were partof DuPont. -Ed.)
B&p Shotshell Reloading Data
B&P is becoming more aggressive in distribution, priceand customer service in the U.S. I’ve not tried all of their shells, to besure. However, I have shot two specific shells that you really need to try foryourself. The first shell is the 12 gauge, 1-1/8 ounce, “F2 Legend” at 1230fps. The medal-winning F2 Legend uses B&P’s F2 powder invented by GianniManfredi, has a B&P wad and is fitted with the patented Gordon hull. Thisis the 12 gauge load that will likely change the way you think shotshells aresupposed to perform.
B&p Shotshells Usa
I ran several shots from a full-choked Browning Cynergyacross the chronograph and the velocities were within five feet per second ofeach other. This is the shell that defines B&P. If there has been sales resistancefrom those who readily admit that F2 shells are smoother, more consistent andbetter performers than other target loads it is that they are luxury shellswith a luxury price. This is no longer the case. As a matter of fact, you getfree shipping right now from B&P USA, no trivial part of lead ammunitionacquisition cost when it weighs a lot like, well, lead. Delivered to your door,the premium B&P shells are now similar, if not a tad cheaper, than many others.
Though I can’t tell you there is a recoil reduction tomy shoulder, I can tell you that they feel smoother and “less lumpy” than AAand STS shells. The most similar feeling shell on the market would be the moreexpensive Federal paper hulls.
B&p Shotshells 16 Gauge
The other B&P shell I’d like to call special attentionto is their “F2 Classic” 16 gauge load, a 1-1/16 ounce, 1280 fps shell that isone of the best balanced, best performing 16 gauge shells on the market. As anadded bonus, it is also a 67mm hull that can be used in 16 gauge shotguns withchambers as short as 65mm. If you are a fan of the Browning A-5 or old 16 gaugedoubles, you might remember that some of the earlier 16 gauge A-5’s came with65mm (2-9/16 inch) chambers. This is the shell that allows use of all those A-5’s as originallymanufactured, without any modification. As for the rest, the best bet is toprove things to yourself. For more info, visit www.bandpusa.com.