Bubble Craps Machine Strategy



  1. Posted by 15 days ago. Does anyone know where I can purchase a Bubble Crap machine? I really need to get this fix took care of.
  2. $5 minimum, $500 bankroll, Best if played on a Bubble Craps machine. Start with a $50 Don't Pass bet. Bet $12 Any 7 or $9 Hopping the 7s. Outlay depends on Point that is established: Point 4: Bet 2 units on 5, 6, 8; 1 unit each on 9, 10, Field, and Hard 4. Point 5: 3 units each on 6 and 8; 1 unit on 4, 9, 10, Field.
100xOdds
these are the Pop O Matic craps machines.
i've seen them in the bellagio and MGM. both a 3x max odds.

The last couple of times I've noticed and preferred the bubble craps machines to the tables mainly because I can play on the strip with low minimums. I have noticed (and seen others discussed) some abnormalities in the frequencies that come up. Further a few times I've been able to time the dice so that the showing roll will be the result.


do u get points playing them?
what other casinos have them, and what odds?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
duckmankilla
NYNY has it for 3x odds as well. The Palms has either $2 or $3 min with I believe 10x odds and I know Binions has one in the back which is a $1 min but only 2x odds. The nice thing about Binions is that you earn comps at the same rate as slot machines for playing, so you can easily play pass and dont pass, take max evening odds on both, and as soon as a 7 or the point is hit earn comps for every resolved dollar you bet. I saw a guy racking up comp points this way when I was there last week and as soon as I switched to try to earn some points myself, the come out roll came up 12 twice in 4 come outs losing me my pass line and pushing the dont, making it very frustrating.
I hear its spreading all over the south strip but I didn't see any other casinos specifically which have it. I've heard rumors of it being in Riviera but I cannot confirm this myself.
duckmankilla
The reason I said 'evening odds' is that you can only bet 2x on either pass or don't pass. The machine doesn't let you bet what would pay out to 2x for a dark sider, so you have to be cautious and work out the numbers to ensure a push on your odds bets.
guido111
Nice update
Most odds I saw was 2 and 3X.
I did not play STW Craps at all the strip casinos.
Gold Strike in Jean was the only one that I saw and used a players card at 2X.
This thread has some more on Shoot to Win Craps.
Shoot to Win Craps Thread
duckmankilla
FWIW I had a blast playing these machines during my most recent trip and the trip before when I first saw it at NYNY. With a full table and people cheering, it can feel almost like a live action craps table... almost. At 3 AM by yourself with no one else around, it doesn't quite give the same rush.
100xOdds

FWIW I had a blast playing these machines during my most recent trip and the trip before when I first saw it at NYNY. With a full table and people cheering, it can feel almost like a live action craps table... almost. At 3 AM by yourself with no one else around, it doesn't quite give the same rush.


so nyny is also 3x odds?
how about buying thr 4+10. do they take the 5% vig AFTER you win (1.67%?) or before (6.67%)?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
guido111

so nyny is also 3x odds?
how about buying thr 4+10. do they take the 5% vig AFTER you win (1.67%?) or before (6.67%)?

Good Q
The ones I played ALL took the vig for all buys and lays after a win. NYNY and Gold Strike
I will be in Vegas in 2 weeks.
Guess it is time to really study the rules at every location.
I also noticed that if the max bet was $500, that was it on the Lay bets. NO Laying the 4 for $1,000.
Pokeraddict

NYNY has it for 3x odds as well. The Palms has either $2 or $3 min with I believe 10x odds and I know Binions has one in the back which is a $1 min but only 2x odds. The nice thing about Binions is that you earn comps at the same rate as slot machines for playing, so you can easily play pass and dont pass, take max evening odds on both, and as soon as a 7 or the point is hit earn comps for every resolved dollar you bet. I saw a guy racking up comp points this way when I was there last week and as soon as I switched to try to earn some points myself, the come out roll came up 12 twice in 4 come outs losing me my pass line and pushing the dont, making it very frustrating.
I hear its spreading all over the south strip but I didn't see any other casinos specifically which have it. I've heard rumors of it being in Riviera but I cannot confirm this myself.


When I played at Binions it did not give me any points at all a few weeks ago, even for line bets. They are also at Riv, but no points anymore. Station will give you points on the flat bets and other wagers, but nothing on the odds. Since the cashback is .3%, you are not going to be able to middle them with points.
100xOdds
got back from sunset station.
$1 min, 5x odds!
but $25max place bets and $250 max combined bets on the table :(
i racked up like 3000 points. so how much is that worth if i cash it in?
and how much is it worth if i use it for their buffet?
Also, does the bellagio give points for their Bubble craps machine?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
NicksGamingStuff
I can confirm Rivieria has it.

One of the most confounding casino games for rookie gamblers visiting Las Vegas is real money craps.

Bubble Craps Machine Strategy Games

And that’s a shame too, because the classic dice rolling affair is also one of the most entertaining experiences on any casino floor. Even better, despite the trappings of exotic bets like the “hard way,” the basic wagers in craps offer odds which are among the most favorable around.

Craps

Unfortunately, due to the craps table’s reputation as the domain of hardcore gamblers, many beginners who want to learn the game never step up to take the dice in hand. This phenomenon can be attributed to many reasons, but first and foremost is the intimidating atmosphere presented by a traditional Las Vegas craps table.

Unlike other table games like blackjack and roulette, real money craps tends to shine a spotlight on novice players. You’ll be asked to take the role of shooter as the dice rotate around the table, which means up to 11 other players all looking your way for a lucky roll.

And even when you’re not rolling the bones yourself, a crowded caps table can feel more like a frat party than a casino game. Everyone is shouting their desired number, yelling to the dealer to get bets down, and celebrating in unison when the shooter nails their point number.

As for the craps table itself, this elongated piece of equipment is always home to no less than five casino staff members working the game. You’ll see a boxman supervising the action, a stickman sliding the dice to shooters, and three dealers scanning bets to collect losers and pay out winners.

Throw in one of the more complex betting layouts found in any casino – one featuring several dozen unique wager types listed using all variety of slang terminology – and traditional craps can easily dissuade would be beginners from giving the game a try.

For these reasons, whenever I encounter a craps rookie lingering near the rail and showing hesitation, I politely suggest that they try a “Bubble” craps machine first.

Officially known as “Shoot to Win Craps,” these innovative machines manufactured by Aruze Gaming manage to recreate the game to perfection in a personalized play format.

The only thing is, many Las Vegas gamblers simply ignore these Shoot to Win Craps machines out of hand, mistakenly believing them to be bastardized versions of the real deal.

That’s what Scott Roeben of the popular Vital Vegas blog used to do, as the experienced local simply didn’t see Shoot to Win Craps as a viable alternative. Here’s what Roeben had to say about this first impression of the machine:

“We love traditional craps, at a craps table, with the chips and the cussing and the dice you can fondle, so we spent months just walking right by the Shoot to Win Craps game.

Until recently, when we sat down and played, and we loved it right from the start.”

After taking the time to play Shoot to Win Craps – which takes its “Bubble Craps” moniker from the plexiglass bubble used to house and roll large foam dice – Roeben took to his Vital Vegas page and spread the new game’s gospel to the masses:

“Craps can be intimidating. While craps tables are often the most boisterous parts of a casino, the jargon and fast pace of the game can be a little off-putting.

The table layout and bets can take some time to learn, so many just watch and move on to game they’re more comfortable with.

Shoot to Win Craps makes craps accessible to everyone, and even provides a lot of benefits more experienced players will appreciate.”

If you’ve ever wanted to play craps for yourself, but couldn’t quite muster the courage to put chips down on a real table, this page is here to tell you that Shoot to Win Craps provides the perfect entry point.

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Shoot to Win Craps Machines Won’t Hit You With Hidden Changes

First things first… you’re probably wondering how the house uses Shoot to Win Craps machines to get one over on players.

In other machine-based replicas of traditional table games, the casino can easily adjust the odds ever so slightly in their favor to increase the house edge. Video blackjack machines largely eschew the more favorable 3 to 2 payouts on a natural 21 for the inferior 6 to 5 reward. And on a video roulette machine, you might find 34 to 1 payouts on a single number hit instead of the standard 35 to 1.

But on a Shoot to Win Craps machine, the payouts and house edge rates are identical across the board to those offered on a genuine craps table:

Payouts and House Edge Rates for Common Bets on the Shoot to Win Craps Machine:

Bet/RulesPayoutHouse Edge
Odds 4, 102 to 10.00%
Odds 5, 93 to 20.00%
Odds 6, 86 to 50.00%
Don’t Pass/Don’t Come1 to 11.36%
Pass/Come1 to 11.41%
Place 6, 87 to 61.52%
Field (3:1 on 12)1 to 12.78%
Place 5, 97 to 54.00%
Field (2:1 on 12)1 to 15.56%
Place 4, 109 to 56.67%
Big 6, 81 to 19.09%
Hard 6, 89 to 19.09%
Any Craps7 to 111.11%
Hard 4, 107 to 111.11%
Hi-Lo (2 or 12)15 to 111.11%
3; Yo-leven (11); Easy Hops15 to 111.11%
2; 12; Hard Hops30 to 113.89%
Any Seven4 to 116.67%

This may not seem like much at first glance, but knowing that Aruze Gaming chose to design their Shoot to Win Craps machines with integrity is very important. I would never advise my readers to take a shot on an inferior wager, so rest assured that you’ll be facing the exact same odds and house edge rates, while playing for the same payouts, when you try the Bubble Craps alternative.

The Minimum Bet Limits and Odds Offered Can Be Much Better on Bubble Craps

Speaking of odds, one of the most popular and profitable wagers in craps – and all of casino gambling for that matter – is known as the Odds bet.

After you’ve placed an introductory bet on either the Pass Line or the Don’t Pass Line, and the shooter sets a point number on their come out roll, you are then free to “take the Odds.” Essentially, this is a second bet placed behind your Pass Line or Don’t Pass Line wager which pays out at true odds when based on the point number.

In other words, you’ll receive a payout of 2 to 1 on your money when the shooter rolls the point of 4 or 10 again; 3 to 2 odds on a 5 or 9 point; and 6 to 5 on a 6 or 8 point. And as the table above makes clear, the Odds bet offers one of the rarest sights in all of casino gambling – a wager with no house edge whatsoever.

Of course, casinos aren’t in the business of offering fair odds like this, which is why you have to place a perfunctory Pass Line or Don’t Pass Line bet first. Furthermore, craps tables nowadays have ditched the old 100x limit on Odds bets which once made Las Vegas the craps capital of the world. Instead, you’ll often see physical craps tables in Sin City limit the Odds bet to 3x on 4 or 10 points, 4x on the 5 or 9, and 5x on the 6 or 8.

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Here’s how the various limitations on Odds betting can affect your overall house edge rate when the Pass Line or Don’t Pass Line wagers are factored in:

House Edge on Craps Odds Bet (by Odds Limit):

Odds (Taken)Pass LineDon’t Pass
0x1.41%1.36%
1x0.848%0.682%
2x0.606%0.455%
Full Double Odds0.572%0.431%
3x0.471%0.341%
3x-4x-5x0.374%0.273%
5x0.326%0.227%
10x0.184%0.124%
20x0.099%0.065%
100x0.021%0.014%

Now that you know how the Odds bet works, check out the list below to see how various Las Vegas casinos choose to limit this crucial wager:

Survey of Craps Tables in Las Vegas:

CasinoMinimum BetMaximum Odds
Aria$103x-4x-5x
Bally’s$53x-4x-5x
Bellagio$103x-4x-5x
Binion’s$55x
Caesars Palace$53x-4x-5x
California$52x
Casino Royale$3100x
Circus Circus$52x
Cosmopolitan$153x-4x-5x
Cromwell$5100x
Downtown Grand$510x
El Cortez$510x
Encore$102x
Flamingo$103x-4x-5x
Four Queens$55x
Fremont$32x
Golden Gate$510x
Golden Nugget$53x-4x-5x
Joker’s Wild$110x
Linq$53x-4x-5x
Luxor$103x-4x-5x
Main Street Station$520x
Mandalay Bay$103x-4x-5x
Margaritaville$103x-4x-5x
MGM Grand$103x-4x-5x
Mirage$103x-4x-5x
Monte Carlo$103x-4x-5x
New York New York$103x-4x-5x
O’Shea’s$53x-4x-5x
Orleans$53x-4x-5x
Palazzo$103x-4x-5x
Palms$103x-4x-5x
Palms$103x-4x-5x
Paris$53x-4x-5x
Red Rock Resort$510x
SLS Las Vegas$510x
South Point$52x
Stratosphere$510x
The D$510x
Treasure Island$103x-4x-5x
Tropicana$103x-4x-5x
Venetian$103x-4x-5x

As you can see, almost all of these venues like to cap their Odds bet action using the 3x-4x-5x structure. And when you can find higher limits than that, you’ll usually need to place a higher minimum wager on the Pass Line or Don’t Pass Line to “earn” that right.

Conversely, players sitting at a Shoot to Win Craps machine can almost always limit their initial liability via lower minimum bets.

Almost every casino in town uses a $5 or $10 minimum on the initial bets when you play at a traditional table. But when you try the Shoot to Win Craps machine, you’ll be able to learn the game at a more leisurely pace thanks to lower limits – all while still enjoying up to 5x on your Odds bet:

Survey of Shoot to Win Craps Machines in Las Vegas:

CasinoMinimum BetMaximum Odds
Aria$52x
Bally’s$32x
Binion’s$25x
Cosmopolitan$52x
Cromwell$32x
Downtown Grand$14x
Excalibur$12x
Flamingo$32x
Harrah’s$32x
Linq$32x
Luxor$23x
Mandalay Bay$32x
MGM Grand$53x
Monte Carlo$35x
New York New York$25x
Palms$25x
Slot-A-Fun$25x
Tropicana$22x

Comfort Is Key on the Shoot to Win Craps Machine

Enough about the intricacies of craps mathematics for a moment though… the real hook offered by Shoot to Win Craps machine is ease of entry.

When you play Bubble Craps, you won’t have to worry about anybody else at the table sizing you up and pegging you as a rookie.

That means no dirty looks if you decide to dance with the “dark side,” a colloquial craps term used to describe Don’t Pass Line bettors. Similarly, when you want to splash around on some of the more longshot exotic wagers like the Any Craps, Hard Way, or Yo-Leven, you can feel free to indulge yourself without receiving a lecture from more conservative players.

And for pure beginners who are simply trying to learn the rules and basic gameplay, Shoot to Win Craps uses a convenient touchscreen input to make the betting layout easy to read and navigate.

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You can watch this short video provided by Aruze Gaming to see exactly how Shoot to Win Craps machines present the game from the player’s perspective:

Conclusion

I’ll be the first to admit that as a longtime craps player, adjusting to the machine-based Bubble rolling can be a bit tricky. Cradling the dice in hand and letting them fly is all part of the fun, as is high-fiving and back-clapping your fellow players when the right number comes in.

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But for folks who have little to no experience rolling real dice at the tables, sitting down for a session on the Shoot to Win Craps machine is definitely the next best thing. When you’ve learned the ropes there, feel free to take your newfound knowledge and confidence to the tables to complete your evolution from student to master.